Week 5 · 2023
Merrimack at Sacred Heart
Sat 09/30/2023 01:00 PMCampus FieldConference
62°Cloudy12 mph NNE · 80% humidityRecorded at kickoff by College Football Data
Merrimack
17
5–6
Sacred Heart
7
2–9
Attendance
—
not reported
SHU6 plays, -7 yd · Punt | ||||
| 15:00 | 1st & 10 | own 35 | Lliam Davis kickoff for 65 yds for a touchback | 0 |
| 14:37 | 1st & 10 | own 25 | Rob McCoy run for a loss of 6 yards to the SHU 19 Rob McCoy fumbled, recovered by SHU Malik Grant | −6 |
| 14:24 | 2nd & 16 | own 19 | Rob McCoy pass complete to Aboraa Kwarteng Sacred Heart Penalty, illegal formation (-5 Yards) to the SHU 14 | −5 |
| 14:02 | 2nd & 21 | own 14 | Malik Grant run for 4 yds to the SHU 18 | +4 |
| 13:22 | 3rd & 17 | own 18 | Rob McCoy pass complete to Malik Grant | 0 |
| 13:09 | 4th & 17 | own 18 | Andrew Ryczek punt for 32 yds | 0 |
MRMK7 plays, 10 yd · Punt | ||||
| 12:58 | 1st & 10 | midfield | Donovan Wadley run for 7 yds to the SHU 43 | +7 |
| 12:26 | 2nd & 3 | opp 43 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 1 yd to the SHU 42 | +1 |
| 11:50 | 3rd & 2 | opp 42 | Gavin McCusker run for 4 yds to the SHU 38 for a 1ST down | +4 |
| 11:08 | 1st & 10 | opp 38 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 2 yds to the SHU 36 | +2 |
| 10:33 | 2nd & 8 | opp 36 | Gavin McCusker run for a loss of 1 yard to the SHU 37 | −1 |
| 9:50 | 3rd & 9 | opp 37 | Gavin McCusker sacked for a loss of 3 yards to the SHU 40 | −3 |
| 9:07 | 4th & 12 | opp 40 | Cole Peterson punt for 34 yds , Jason Palmieri returns for no gain to the SHU 5 Jason Palmieri fumbled, recovered by SHU Jason Palmieri , return for no gain to the SHU 5 | 0 |
SHU4 plays, 1 yd · Punt | ||||
| 8:52 | 1st & 10 | own 5 | Jalen Madison run for 1 yd to the SHU 6 | +1 |
| 8:25 | 2nd & 9 | own 6 | — | 0 |
| 8:00 | 3rd & 9 | own 6 | pass incomplete to Jalen Madison | 0 |
| 7:48 | 4th & 9 | own 6 | Andrew Ryczek punt for 48 yds, punt out-of-bounds at the SHU 37 , Garry Rosemond Jr. returns for 17 yds to the SHU 37 | +17 |
MRMK4 plays, 37 yd · Defensive TD | ||||
| 7:44 | 1st & 10 | opp 37 | pass incomplete to Hayden Fisher | 0 |
| 7:25 | 2nd & 10 | opp 37 | Donovan Wadley run for 1 yd to the SHU 36 | +1 |
| 6:40 | 3rd & 9 | opp 36 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 5 yds to the SHU 31 | +5 |
| 5:55 | 4th & 4 | opp 31 | Arsheen Jiles 62 Yd Fumble Return (Sam Renzi Kick) | +62 |
MRMK9 plays, 29 yd · Field goal | ||||
| 5:55 | 1st & 10 | own 35 | Sam Renzi kickoff for 37 yds , Myles Taylor return for 34 yds to the SHU 38 | +34 |
| 5:46 | 1st & 10 | opp 38 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 4 yds to the SHU 34 | +4 |
| 5:10 | 2nd & 6 | opp 34 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 11 yds to the SHU 23 for a 1ST down | +11 |
| 4:20 | 1st & 10 | opp 23 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 5 yds to the SHU 18 | +5 |
| 3:55 | 2nd & 5 | opp 18 | Brendon Wyatt run for 8 yds to the SHU 10 for a 1ST down | +8 |
| 3:36 | 1st & goal | opp 10 | Gavin McCusker pass incomplete to Jelani Mason, broken up by Edwin Maxwell | 0 |
| 3:32 | 2nd & goal | opp 10 | pass incomplete to Hayden Fisher | 0 |
| 3:23 | 3rd & goal | opp 10 | Gavin McCusker run for 1 yd to the SHU 9 | +1 |
| 2:47 | 4th & goal | opp 9 | Lliam Davis 26 yd FG GOOD | +26 |
SHU5 plays, 6 yd · Punt | ||||
| 2:47 | 1st & 10 | own 35 | Lliam Davis kickoff for 65 yds for a touchback | 0 |
| 2:40 | 1st & 10 | own 25 | Rob McCoy pass incomplete to LJ Haskett, broken up by Garry Rosemond Jr. | 0 |
| 2:22 | 2nd & 10 | own 25 | Malik Grant run for 6 yds to the SHU 31 | +6 |
| 2:05 | 3rd & 4 | own 31 | Rob McCoy pass incomplete to LJ Haskett, broken up by Deon Houston | 0 |
| 1:58 | 4th & 4 | own 31 | Andrew Ryczek punt for 20 yds Sacred Heart Penalty, illegal formation (-5 Yards) to the SHU 46 | +15 |
MRMK6 plays, 2 yd · Punt | ||||
| 1:46 | 1st & 10 | opp 46 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 2 yds to the SHU 44 | +2 |
| 1:05 | 2nd & 8 | opp 44 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for a loss of 1 yard to the SHU 45 | −1 |
| 0:21 | 3rd & 9 | opp 45 | Gavin McCusker pass complete to Donovan Wadley Merrimack Penalty, Offensive holding (Cole Birdow) to the MRMK 45 | −10 |
| 0:21 | 3rd & 19 | own 45 | Gavin McCusker run for 11 yds to the SHU 44 | +11 |
| 0:00 | own 45 | End of 1st Quarter | 0 | |
| 14:52 | 4th & 8 | opp 44 | Cole Peterson punt for 21 yds | 0 |
SHU4 plays, 6 yd · Punt | ||||
| 14:40 | 1st & 10 | own 23 | Jalen Madison run for 1 yd to the SHU 24 | +1 |
| 14:05 | 2nd & 9 | own 24 | Rob McCoy pass complete to Malik Grant for 5 yds to the SHU 29 | +5 |
| 13:31 | 3rd & 4 | own 29 | — | 0 |
| 12:57 | 4th & 4 | own 29 | Andrew Ryczek punt for 40 yds | 0 |
MRMK12 plays, 41 yd · Missed FG | ||||
| 12:47 | 1st & 10 | own 31 | Donovan Wadley run for 10 yds to the MRMK 41 for a 1ST down | +10 |
| 12:15 | 1st & 10 | own 41 | Donovan Wadley run for 4 yds to the MRMK 45 | +4 |
| 11:48 | 2nd & 6 | own 45 | Merrimack Penalty, false start (AJ Urbaniak) to the MRMK 40 | −5 |
| 11:10 | 2nd & 11 | own 40 | Donovan Wadley run for 4 yds to the MRMK 44 | +4 |
| 10:24 | 3rd & 7 | own 44 | Gavin McCusker run for 8 yds to the SHU 48 for a 1ST down | +8 |
| 9:50 | 1st & 10 | opp 48 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 7 yds to the SHU 41 | +7 |
| 9:25 | 2nd & 3 | opp 41 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 6 yds to the SHU 35 for a 1ST down | +6 |
| 9:03 | 1st & 10 | opp 35 | Merrimack Penalty, Offensive holding (Joey Trainor) to the SHU 45 | −10 |
| 8:40 | 1st & 20 | opp 45 | Donovan Wadley run for 15 yds to the SHU 30 | +15 |
| 8:02 | 2nd & 5 | opp 30 | Gavin McCusker run for 3 yds to the SHU 27 | +3 |
| 7:12 | 3rd & 2 | opp 27 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for a loss of 1 yard to the SHU 28 | −1 |
| 6:27 | 4th & 3 | opp 28 | Lliam Davis 45 yd FG MISSED | +45 |
SHU8 plays, 32 yd · Punt | ||||
| 6:21 | 1st & 10 | own 28 | Rob McCoy pass incomplete to Kevin McGuire for a 1ST down Merrimack Penalty, roughing passer (Brandon Roberts) to the SHU 43 for a 1ST down | +15 |
| 6:03 | 1st & 10 | own 43 | Malik Grant run for a loss of 2 yards to the SHU 41 | −2 |
| 5:45 | 2nd & 12 | own 41 | Rob McCoy pass complete to Ethan Hilliman for 11 yds to the MRMK 48 | +11 |
| 5:20 | 3rd & 1 | opp 48 | Rob McCoy run for 2 yds to the MRMK 46 for a 1ST down | +2 |
| 5:00 | 1st & 10 | opp 46 | pass incomplete to Ethan Hilliman | 0 |
| 4:45 | 2nd & 10 | opp 46 | Malik Grant run for 7 yds to the MRMK 39 | +7 |
| 4:21 | 3rd & 3 | opp 39 | Rob McCoy run for a loss of 1 yard to the MRMK 40 | −1 |
| 3:43 | 4th & 4 | opp 40 | Andrew Ryczek punt for 40 yds | 0 |
MRMK4 plays, 1 yd · Punt | ||||
| 3:29 | 1st & 10 | own 20 | — | 0 |
| 2:41 | 2nd & 10 | own 20 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 1 yd to the MRMK 21 | +1 |
| 2:01 | 3rd & 9 | own 21 | pass incomplete to Jack McManus | 0 |
| 1:55 | 4th & 9 | own 21 | Cole Peterson punt for 31 yds | 0 |
SHU6 plays, 27 yd · Missed FG | ||||
| 1:41 | 1st & 10 | own 48 | Rob McCoy pass complete to Jalen Madison for 9 yds to the MRMK 43 | +9 |
| 1:27 | 2nd & 1 | opp 43 | Jalen Madison run for 11 yds to the MRMK 32 for a 1ST down | +11 |
| 1:22 | 1st & 10 | opp 32 | Rob McCoy sacked for a loss of 6 yards to the MRMK 38 | −6 |
| 1:16 | 2nd & 16 | opp 38 | Jalen Madison run for 13 yds to the MRMK 25 | +13 |
| 1:05 | 3rd & 3 | opp 25 | Rob McCoy pass complete to Jalen Madison | 0 |
| 0:52 | 4th & 3 | opp 25 | Sam Renzi 42 yd FG MISSED | +42 |
MRMK2 plays, 3 yd · Turnover | ||||
| 0:33 | 1st & 10 | own 25 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 3 yds to the MRMK 28 | +3 |
| 0:14 | 2nd & 7 | own 28 | Gavin McCusker pass intercepted | 0 |
SHU1 play, 0 yd · End of period | ||||
| 0:14 | 1st & 10 | own 33 | — | 0 |
MRMK5 plays, 9 yd · Punt | ||||
| 15:00 | 1st & 10 | own 35 | Sam Renzi kickoff for 31 yds , Luke Kelleher return for 5 yds to the MRMK 39 | +5 |
| 14:57 | 1st & 10 | own 39 | Gavin McCusker run for 8 yds to the MRMK 47 | +8 |
| 14:21 | 2nd & 2 | own 47 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 1 yd to the MRMK 48 | +1 |
| 13:25 | 3rd & 1 | own 48 | — | 0 |
| 12:53 | 4th & 1 | own 48 | Cole Peterson punt for 39 yds | 0 |
SHU6 plays, 15 yd · Punt | ||||
| 12:36 | 1st & 10 | own 13 | Rob McCoy pass complete to Ben Evee for 10 yds to the SHU 23 for a 1ST down | +10 |
| 12:12 | 1st & 10 | own 23 | Malik Grant run for 7 yds to the SHU 30 Sacred Heart Penalty, Offensive holding (-10 Yards) to the SHU 20 | −3 |
| 12:12 | 1st & 13 | own 20 | Malik Grant run for 4 yds to the SHU 24 | +4 |
| 11:34 | 2nd & 9 | own 24 | — | 0 |
| 10:54 | 3rd & 9 | own 24 | Malik Grant run for 4 yds to the SHU 28 | +4 |
| 10:19 | 4th & 5 | own 28 | Andrew Ryczek punt for 70 yds Merrimack Penalty, substitution infraction (Myles Taylor) to the MRMK 2 | +70 |
MRMK4 plays, 2 yd · Punt | ||||
| 9:46 | 1st & 10 | own 2 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 6 yds to the MRMK 8 | +6 |
| 9:21 | 2nd & 4 | own 8 | — | 0 |
| 8:34 | 3rd & 4 | own 8 | Gavin McCusker sacked for a loss of 4 yards to the MRMK 4 | −4 |
| 7:52 | 4th & 8 | own 4 | Cole Peterson punt for 50 yds | 0 |
SHU4 plays, 5 yd · Punt | ||||
| 7:48 | 1st & 10 | own 46 | pass incomplete to Xavier Leigh | 0 |
| 7:32 | 2nd & 10 | own 46 | Xavier Leigh run for 2 yds to the SHU 48 | +2 |
| 6:53 | 3rd & 8 | own 48 | Rob McCoy pass complete to LJ Haskett for 3 yds to the MRMK 49 | +3 |
| 6:31 | 4th & 5 | opp 49 | Andrew Ryczek punt for 14 yds | 0 |
MRMK5 plays, 1 yd · Punt | ||||
| 6:12 | 1st & 10 | own 35 | Donovan Wadley run for 7 yds to the MRMK 42 | +7 |
| 5:53 | 2nd & 3 | own 42 | Merrimack Penalty, personal foul (Antonio Derry) to the MRMK 37 | −5 |
| 5:12 | 2nd & 8 | own 37 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for a loss of 1 yard to the MRMK 36 | −1 |
| 4:34 | 3rd & 9 | own 36 | pass incomplete to Seth Sweitzer | 0 |
| 4:27 | 4th & 9 | own 36 | Cole Peterson punt for 29 yds | 0 |
SHU7 plays, 22 yd · Punt | ||||
| 4:11 | 1st & 10 | own 35 | Rob McCoy pass complete to Dylan Jones for 3 yds to the SHU 38 | +3 |
| 3:42 | 2nd & 7 | own 38 | Jalen Madison run for 2 yds to the SHU 40 | +2 |
| 3:27 | 3rd & 5 | own 40 | Rob McCoy pass incomplete to Payton Rhoades for a 1ST down Merrimack Penalty, Defensive holding (Myles Taylor) to the 50 yard line for a 1ST down | +10 |
| 3:17 | 1st & 10 | midfield | Rob McCoy pass complete to Aboraa Kwarteng for 4 yds to the MRMK 46 | +4 |
| 2:52 | 2nd & 6 | opp 46 | Jalen Madison run for 3 yds to the MRMK 43 | +3 |
| 2:26 | 3rd & 3 | opp 43 | pass incomplete to Dylan Jones | 0 |
| 2:20 | 4th & 3 | opp 43 | Andrew Ryczek punt for 38 yds | 0 |
MRMK11 plays, 31 yd · Punt | ||||
| 2:15 | 1st & 10 | own 5 | pass incomplete to Jelani Mason | 0 |
| 2:15 | 2nd & 10 | own 5 | Sacred Heart Penalty, encroachment (Glory Stephen-Wangboje) to the MRMK 10 | +5 |
| 2:02 | 2nd & 5 | own 10 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 4 yds to the MRMK 14 | +4 |
| 1:49 | 3rd & 1 | own 14 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 3 yds to the MRMK 17 Sacred Heart Penalty, face mask (15 yards) (15 Yards) to the MRMK 32 | +18 |
| 1:30 | 1st & 10 | own 32 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 5 yds to the MRMK 37 | +5 |
| 1:08 | 2nd & 5 | own 37 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 6 yds to the MRMK 43 for a 1ST down | +6 |
| 1:08 | 1st & 10 | own 43 | Brendon Wyatt run for 2 yds to the MRMK 45 | +2 |
| 0:00 | own 43 | End of 3rd Quarter | 0 | |
| 14:48 | 2nd & 8 | own 45 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 2 yds to the MRMK 47 | +2 |
| 14:01 | 3rd & 6 | own 47 | Malakai Anthony sacked for a loss of 11 yards to the MRMK 36 Merrimack Penalty, intentional grounding (Malakai Anthony) to the MRMK 36 | −11 |
| 13:52 | 4th & 17 | own 36 | Cole Peterson punt for 43 yds , Jason Palmieri returns for 2 yds to the SHU 23 | +2 |
SHU2 plays, 77 yd · Touchdown | ||||
| 13:35 | 1st & 10 | own 23 | Rob McCoy pass complete to Malik Grant | 0 |
| 13:03 | 2nd & 10 | own 23 | Tre Jordan III 35 Yd Interception Return (Lliam Davis Kick) | +35 |
SHU8 plays, 35 yd · On downs | ||||
| 13:03 | 1st & 10 | own 35 | Lliam Davis kickoff for 65 yds , Jon Moccia return for 16 yds to the SHU 16 | +16 |
| 12:58 | 1st & 10 | own 16 | Jalen Madison run for 6 yds to the SHU 22 | +6 |
| 12:24 | 2nd & 4 | own 22 | Rob McCoy pass complete to Aboraa Kwarteng for 5 yds to the SHU 27 for a 1ST down | +5 |
| 12:05 | 1st & 10 | own 27 | Rob McCoy run for 15 yds to the SHU 42 for a 1ST down | +15 |
| 11:39 | 1st & 10 | own 42 | Rob McCoy pass complete to Aboraa Kwarteng for 1 yd to the SHU 43 | +1 |
| 11:12 | 2nd & 9 | own 43 | Rob McCoy run for 7 yds to the 50 yard line | +7 |
| 10:36 | 3rd & 2 | midfield | Jalen Madison run for 1 yd to the MRMK 49 | +1 |
| 10:10 | 4th & 1 | opp 49 | — | 0 |
MRMK5 plays, 14 yd · Punt | ||||
| 9:54 | 1st & 10 | own 49 | Malakai Anthony run for 12 yds to the SHU 39 for a 1ST down | +12 |
| 9:34 | 1st & 10 | opp 39 | Donovan Wadley run for 1 yd to the SHU 38 | +1 |
| 8:57 | 2nd & 9 | opp 38 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 1 yd to the SHU 37 | +1 |
| 8:18 | 3rd & 8 | opp 37 | pass incomplete to Donovan Wadley | 0 |
| 8:10 | 4th & 8 | opp 37 | Cole Peterson punt for 24 yds | 0 |
SHU6 plays, 4 yd · Punt | ||||
| 8:04 | 1st & 10 | own 13 | pass incomplete to Malik Grant | 0 |
| 7:58 | 2nd & 10 | own 13 | Rob McCoy pass incomplete to LJ Haskett, broken up by Tre Jordan III for a 1ST down Merrimack Penalty, Defensive pass interference (Tre Jordan III) to the SHU 16 for a 1ST down | +3 |
| 7:39 | 1st & 10 | own 16 | Malik Grant run for 1 yd to the SHU 17 | +1 |
| 7:21 | 2nd & 9 | own 17 | pass incomplete to Payton Rhoades | 0 |
| 7:18 | 3rd & 9 | own 17 | pass incomplete to Malik Grant | 0 |
| 7:11 | 4th & 9 | own 17 | Andrew Ryczek punt for 28 yds | 0 |
MRMK1 play, 45 yd · Touchdown | ||||
| 7:02 | 1st & 10 | opp 45 | Donovan Wadley run for 45 yds for a TD (Lliam Davis KICK) | +45 |
SHU4 plays, 2 yd · Turnover | ||||
| 7:02 | 1st & 10 | own 35 | Lliam Davis kickoff for 65 yds for a touchback | 0 |
| 6:59 | 1st & 10 | own 25 | Rob McCoy pass incomplete to Jalen Madison, broken up by Malek Sabri | 0 |
| 6:46 | 2nd & 10 | own 25 | Jalen Madison run for 2 yds to the SHU 27 | +2 |
| 6:27 | 3rd & 8 | own 27 | Rob McCoy pass intercepted | 0 |
MRMK4 plays, 15 yd · Turnover | ||||
| 6:22 | 1st & 10 | opp 40 | Malakai Anthony run for 5 yds to the SHU 35 | +5 |
| 5:34 | 2nd & 5 | opp 35 | Donovan Wadley run for 8 yds to the SHU 27 for a 1ST down | +8 |
| 4:40 | 1st & 10 | opp 27 | Malakai Anthony run for 2 yds to the SHU 25 | +2 |
| 3:22 | 2nd & 8 | opp 25 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 4 yds to the SHU 21 Tyvon Edmonds Jr. fumbled, recovered by SHU Nicholas Yanchuk | +4 |
SHU13 plays, 71 yd · On downs | ||||
| 3:14 | 1st & 10 | own 21 | pass incomplete to Aboraa Kwarteng | 0 |
| 2:59 | 2nd & 10 | own 21 | Rob McCoy pass complete to Aboraa Kwarteng for 15 yds to the SHU 36 for a 1ST down | +15 |
| 2:34 | 1st & 10 | own 36 | Malik Grant run for 3 yds to the SHU 39 | +3 |
| 2:23 | 2nd & 7 | own 39 | pass incomplete to Aboraa Kwarteng | 0 |
| 2:09 | 3rd & 7 | own 39 | Rob McCoy run for 6 yds to the SHU 45 | +6 |
| 1:56 | 4th & 1 | own 45 | Sacred Heart Penalty, false start (Mike Griggs) to the SHU 40 | −5 |
| 1:38 | 4th & 6 | own 40 | Rob McCoy pass complete to Kevin McGuire for 48 yds to the MRMK 12 for a 1ST down | +48 |
| 1:34 | 1st & 10 | opp 12 | Rob McCoy pass incomplete to Ethan Hilliman for a 1ST down Merrimack Penalty, Defensive holding (Grant Jackson) to the MRMK 6 for a 1ST down | +6 |
| 1:34 | 1st & goal | opp 6 | Sacred Heart Penalty, false start (Ethan Hilliman) to the MRMK 11 | −5 |
| 1:29 | 1st & goal | opp 11 | pass incomplete to Aboraa Kwarteng | 0 |
| 1:04 | 2nd & goal | opp 11 | Malik Grant run for 3 yds to the MRMK 8 | +3 |
| 1:00 | 3rd & goal | opp 8 | pass incomplete to LJ Haskett | 0 |
| 0:54 | 4th & goal | opp 8 | pass incomplete to Aboraa Kwarteng | 0 |
MRMK4 plays, -3 yd · Uncategorized | ||||
| 0:45 | 2nd & 7 | own 11 | Malakai Anthony run for 2 yds to the MRMK 13 | +2 |
| 0:45 | 1st & 10 | own 8 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 3 yds to the MRMK 11 | +3 |
| 0:40 | 3rd & 5 | own 13 | Tyvon Edmonds Jr. run for 3 yds to the MRMK 16 | +3 |
| 0:26 | 4th & 2 | own 16 | Cole Peterson punt for 53 yds | 0 |
SHU2 plays, 3 yd · Turnover | ||||
| 0:21 | 1st & 10 | own 31 | Rob McCoy pass complete to Kevin McGuire for 3 yds to the SHU 34 | +3 |
| 0:14 | 2nd & 7 | own 34 | Rob McCoy pass complete to LJ Haskett for 12 yds Rob McCoy fumbled, recovered by MRMK Donte Williams | +12 |
MRMK1 play, 0 yd · Uncategorized | ||||
| 0:14 | 1st & 10 | opp 46 | Malakai Anthony run for a loss of 1 yard to the SHU 46 | −1 |
Field position is from the offense’s point of view, the same as the drive chart. Play descriptions are CFBD’s own.
Previous 2 meetings vs. Team
Sacred Heart 1–1 vs Merrimack
- 2022 · wk 8Sacred Heart 25 @ Merrimack 31
- 2021 · wk 6Merrimack 10 @ Sacred Heart 20
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